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Offline LauraO

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Barkiness
« on: September 23, 2009, 01:00 AM »
Hey!

One of the reason I looked into RRs was for their relatively low barkiness, as dogs go. Sure, all dogs bark, and personally, I have no problem with a barking dog. I actually personally LIKE a dog that expresses him or herself. If I had a house, I could care less as long as it wasn't obsessive and constant.

But I live in a co op. A dog friendly one, but still, constant problems would disturb the neighbors.

If a puppy seems to bark more than some of its siblings, does it stay that way through adulthood?

I know this isn't really a fair question. You can't be sure I guess until adulthood. 

Does anyone here have an RR that barks more than usual, and if so, how were they as pups?
How barky were they as pups?  Did anyone here have a fairly expressive pup that quieted down a bit as an adult?

Again, I know you cannot accurately predict. This is nature after all. Still, trying to get an estimate.


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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 08:52 AM »
in some cases barking in a puppy is a 'dominance' issue. they are barking to get attention. ensuring that you are not positively reinforcing the behavior (by responding to the barking) should lead to less barking over time, but yes puppies do bark. though the 3 RRs i've raised from pups have been realitively quiet, throughout their development.

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 08:56 AM »
Hey!

One of the reason I looked into RRs was for their relatively low barkiness, as dogs go. Sure, all dogs bark, and personally, I have no problem with a barking dog. I actually personally LIKE a dog that expresses him or herself. If I had a house, I could care less as long as it wasn't obsessive and constant.

But I live in a co op. A dog friendly one, but still, constant problems would disturb the neighbors.

If a puppy seems to bark more than some of its siblings, does it stay that way through adulthood?

I know this isn't really a fair question. You can't be sure I guess until adulthood. 

Does anyone here have an RR that barks more than usual, and if so, how were they as pups?
How barky were they as pups?  Did anyone here have a fairly expressive pup that quieted down a bit as an adult?

Again, I know you cannot accurately predict. This is nature after all. Still, trying to get an estimate.



it can be inherited

- i would say that it will stay in my experience and after talking to others

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 09:56 AM »
it can be inherited

- i would say that it will stay in my experience and after talking to others



I'm not sure if I'd say its inherited - but in my experience once a "talker" always a "talker". I have one that's silent unless he thinks we're in danger, then I have one that will "talk" sometimes just to hear his own voice. Both are out of the same line. (same father too)

Pay attention to the pups. Mine were that way as pups and have never grown out of it.

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 10:05 AM »
I do want to add though that any dog can become a nuisance barker when left with nothing to do.

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 10:40 AM »
Oh yes, that I understand.   :)

I do want to add though that any dog can become a nuisance barker when left with nothing to do.

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 01:56 PM »
While Im not sure about the Ridgebacks, my boss breeds Newfoundlands and those puppies are always barking to get their way.. we think it has alot to do with that the mother is a spaz and barks alot, so in the womb them became conditioned to barking??? That and they dont have much excitement in their lives.

Anyway, Ridgebacks by nature are quiet dogs. In fact, at work when we're out playing (we are perched right along a highway).. if a person walks by or rides by on a bike EVERYONE generally runs to the fence barking.. Stormy always stays behind and just watches. They say Ridgebacks can "tell" what poses a threat and what is worth investigating, that said, we do have a Ridgeback who loves to chase loud semi's and HE will run and bark at almost anything (other than normal car traffic) that comes or stops by the fence.

That being said, if you live in an apartment and have a window facing a populus street or sidewalk or something, I would venture a bet that you may hear more barking depending on how close people (or animals) are passing by your house. When I lived in Florida, the dogs would go CRAZY barking and jumping at the windows for the mailman... everyday... (our mailbox was attached to our front door) but people walking by on the sidewalk would generally only get a look. We had a row of windows facing our front yard so the dogs loved to sit there and be lookouts. But, unless someone CAME onto our property, past the sidewalk line, they wouldnt bark. Of course, having 2 dogs feed off eachother's emotions and actions plays a big part there as well.

I do think that some dogs just LOVE to bark since they have nothing better to do, as Kelley said. So as long as you are interacting with puppy, giving it lots of exercise so it comes home and SLEEPS, and during down time has a few toys to play with or chews to keep them occupied, I think you'll be just fine!! Now, barking because of separation anxiety is a WHOOOOLLLLLEEEE nother story!!
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 04:28 PM »
Bark or any noise makers in general?  I think there is definitely a genetic tendency.  I see a difference in the half siblings of Xhabbo.  Lotta DRAMA from the litter of a certain stud dog, also they bunch their bedding up in the crate when they are mad and not getting attention or what they want.

My RR's typically only bark in play and to alert.  Puppies tend to bark more than adults, I believe.  I've had RR fosters that have barked their heads off though when crated and left home. 
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 01:25 PM »
Bark.

And as to the fosters, were they used to crating from wherever they came from?

Bark or any noise makers in general?  I think there is definitely a genetic tendency.  I see a difference in the half siblings of Xhabbo.  Lotta DRAMA from the litter of a certain stud dog, also they bunch their bedding up in the crate when they are mad and not getting attention or what they want.

My RR's typically only bark in play and to alert.  Puppies tend to bark more than adults, I believe.  I've had RR fosters that have barked their heads off though when crated and left home. 

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 06:18 PM »
Bark.

And as to the fosters, were they used to crating from wherever they came from?

I think that would depend if the foster family knew where the dog came from. Could be a stray so therefore one wouldn't know how it was before.
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 07:43 PM »
Bark.

And as to the fosters, were they used to crating from wherever they came from?


One was a stray and she simply hated the crate.  Busted one wire crate and was quite determined to breakfree of the airline crate.  She ended up in a home where she could be out since someone was usually always home.  Had she stayed long term with me she could have eventually been left out with Trek.

The other was from a byb that placed him with another one of her puppy homes that eventually sold him.  We (utah rescue) bought him and I had him for about a week before we drove him to WY to another foster home because I was going to be at Nationals.  That foster home kept him.  He was/is a wonderful dog, attached immediately to their young daughter.  This was a dog that I probably would have gotten attached to and been tempted to keep, despite the crate barking. 

The other noises some RR's can make can be as disruptive as a bark, if not more so. 
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 04:26 AM »
You should hear the fit Shag throws when I pull into the driveway and he heres the car but the second I reach the front door he is as quite and calm as can be, sitting like a good boy.  Very funny.
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 09:28 AM »
Like growls or yodels or..?

One was a stray and she simply hated the crate.  Busted one wire crate and was quite determined to breakfree of the airline crate.  She ended up in a home where she could be out since someone was usually always home.  Had she stayed long term with me she could have eventually been left out with Trek.

The other was from a byb that placed him with another one of her puppy homes that eventually sold him.  We (utah rescue) bought him and I had him for about a week before we drove him to WY to another foster home because I was going to be at Nationals.  That foster home kept him.  He was/is a wonderful dog, attached immediately to their young daughter.  This was a dog that I probably would have gotten attached to and been tempted to keep, despite the crate barking. 

The other noises some RR's can make can be as disruptive as a bark, if not more so. 

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 09:28 AM »
Wow. How long did that go on for?

ooh MaryAnne, you are so right, Kumba thought he was being murdered when we were crate training him.  Howled like something I had never heard before.  We are lucky we live in such a remote area, no one heard him because if someone did they would surely have thought he was being tortured. We were all so glad when that stage was over.

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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 10:33 AM »
about three weeks.  Now he goes in for naps if he wants during the day.  the door is left open and he will either go for a nap in there or go lie on my bed.
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2009, 02:00 PM »
Like growls or yodels or..?


Like screaming, barking and yodeling all mixed together.  Quite loud and pathetic.  Thank doG that he only does it when I pull into the driveway. He is very good about going in and when I leave the house.
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2009, 03:53 PM »
Clyde doesn't bark, he talks, and it's so funny!  But for the first few months, when left alone, he would cry and howl so loud I could hear it from the other end of our street!  He still cries when we leave, but by the time we are in the car he quiets himself down.
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Re: Barkiness
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2009, 11:30 AM »
OK. Well, I did prepare my neighbors.  Man I hope they don't hate my guts.


Clyde doesn't bark, he talks, and it's so funny!  But for the first few months, when left alone, he would cry and howl so loud I could hear it from the other end of our street!  He still cries when we leave, but by the time we are in the car he quiets himself down.